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« on: January 13, 2010, 12:18:57 AM »

This article was pointed out to me in today's China Daily (12-Jan-2010)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/2010-01/12/content_9304027.htm

By Huang Hung (China Daily) Update

Now, listen up, you foreigner boys and girls, Chinese New Year is around the corner and I want to talk to you seriously about fireworks.

I saw this picture in a newspaper, where a smiling, cordial Chinese girl (rather pretty as well) was explaining the tradition of lighting fireworks to a group of foreign guys. They all looked very happy.

I will let you know that is false information. Fireworks are no small matter, and no laughing matter either. So wipe that smirk off your face and listen up.

Dear laowai, don't mess with our Chinese-ness

As a Chinese, I want to be honest with you. For the past 30 years, we have opened up to the West, and welcomed foreigners like yourselves to come here to do business, to make money, even gave you some easy credit to let you buy real estate, marry our women, whatever. But this does not make you Chinese. There are things we reserve for ourselves, and it really doesn't matter how long you have been here, just don't assume you can be one of us, and don't touch the following three things:

CHICKEN FEET,

SEA CUCUMBERS

AND FIRECRACKERS!

Most of you are well trained enough to withhold your chopsticks, whichever way you are holding them, and stay away from the chicken feet at Chinese dim sum restaurants. But some of you are show-offs. Most of the time, you are trying to prove to your Chinese girlfriend's parents that you are so Chinese. "Look, I am eating chicken feet. Mmm ... Good!"

Don't do that. We really get annoyed when foreigners try to chomp on chicken feet. Sometimes, you are so polite, you don't spit out the bones, you chew them and try to swallow them. That's totally unacceptable. Because, when you do that, most Chinese start getting anxious about you choking to death on the damn chicken bones. And it is very difficult to enjoy dim sum when you are anxious.

Sea cucumbers are not for you either. Most of you are rather intimidated by slimy sea things - jelly fish, sea cucumbers. But, there are those of you who are so brave that you insist on trying it, and pretend to enjoy it. Most of the time, you are a foreign businessman, you don't want to offend your Chinese host by not eating the most expensive dish ordered.

I've got some news for you. Guess what? He didn't order it for you! He ordered it for the Chinese at the table! Do you know how difficult it is to soak the sea cucumber so it acquires the right slimy texture? No one can master it in his own kitchen. Only the restaurants can. So stop trying to pick up the sea cucumber with your chopsticks, it will probably end up in your lap anyway. Just politely put the untouched dish back on the lazy susan. We are not impressed by sea cucumber chivalry.

Now fireworks. It is strictly, strictly for us Chinese. We really don't want you anywhere near fireworks. First of all, it is dangerous. You don't understand why 1.4 billion people have to turn into pyromaniacs for one night. It's totally beyond your comprehension. But we love it; we have been setting off these things since we were three and for 5,000 years. So let me just say that fireworks are not for barbarians like you. You don't get it. On the other hand, we Chinese have great tolerance for fireworks; it's one night when you can do some damage and get away with it. For example, you can burn a building down, a brand new building, with stuff in it. How can you comprehend that level of generosity?

And, don't you dare try to do the same, we simply have no tolerance for it. You try to burn a building down, we will kill you, because, you were probably high, and we really don't give a hoot whether you are mentally disturbed or whether your prime minister is going to make endless harassing phone calls.

So, you better be good, you better be nice, because firecrackers are coming to town!

(Huang Hung is an opinionator on arts, lifestyle and showbiz.)

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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2010, 02:15:17 AM »

what it said is a little rediculous
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2010, 09:59:21 AM »

It's very inflamatory and shows that the author is very predjuduce against foreigners.

For the China Daily to publish this is very surprising considering how much effort, time and resources the Government has put in to develop relations with foreigners, not to mention that the China Daily is distributed globally can create a huge backlash.

Obviously this author has no idea of the benefits the foreigners bring to China and articles like this will only cause more issues and controversy.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2010, 12:03:32 PM »


Mike check this out.. a forum flame in China Daily hahaha

http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?gid=2&tid=657904


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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2010, 12:37:38 PM »

I just lifted this off the site...  There seems to be a bit of humour in this one.  I had a great chuckle.
Could be titled, Dear LaiZhong, why would we want to adopt Chinese-ness
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http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?gid=2&tid=657904
2010-1-12 12:20 PM   #4
   
Our turn, now ...

Let's start with the men. I am tired of walking into a fast food restaurant and seeing more urine on the floor than what actually goes into the urinal. To all Chinese men ... Stand close. It's shorter than you think. Urination is NOT a pissing for distance contest!! There is no need to stand a foot back, thrust your hips forward, and hope you hit the thing. There is a reason why the front of a urinal is shaped the way it is. It's to catch the drops you shake off.  And don't tell me it's because the urinal is dirty that you stand back so far. Unless your member is so long that it actually flops into and bounces off the porcelain, or unless you wipe the urinal with your bare hands and then pull wee Willie out, germs are NOT going to magically fly into the air and infect your little love snake. If you are that uncomfortable about standing up to pee, then go in the cubicle, close the door and either sit down or squat, depending on the facilities.

While we're on the topic of personal hygiene, please, please, please, when you get onto that crowded bus, don't stand and stare at me, smile, then proceed to cough all over my face. I don't want to see that tonsillectomy you had last week, nor do I wish to see the contents of your stomach by way of your esophagus. Cover your mouth when you cough. Didn't SARS teach you anything? Same goes with sneezing. A sneeze can travel at up to 100 mph. I do not want to be catching your phlegm with my face at that speed. And for Gawd's sake, brush and floss your teeth AFTER you eat meals, not before, not 10 hours later. and not once a week because you are trying to set a World's Record for the most economic use of a tube of toothpaste. And before I forget, for crying out loud, if you know your going to be on a bus or train for longer than 3 hours TAKE A SHOWER BEFORE YOU LEAVE HOME !!!! Oh, and put on a clean pair of socks, ok? Is that too much to ask?

Taxi drivers ... believe it or not, not every foreigner standing by the side of the road needs a freakin' taxi !! Ok? Most of the time, all we are trying to do is cross the street. We can do that without a taxi. Unless we flag you down ... keep going. Now ... when we do need you, remember, even though you may be a big fan of the F1 circuit, guess what. That little VW Jetta you're driving is NOT a Formula 1 race car, and you are NOT Tom Petty. If we'd wanted to experience G-forces higher than 4.2, we'd be fighter pilots. There's a reason why those little signs flashing by you say 60 km/h. No, somebody didn't forget to put in an extra zero. It's because that is the maximum safe speed under ideal conditions that you are legally allowed to drive at.

Ladies ... ladies, ladies, ladies.  Here's a little tip for you. Ladies don't spit. It's gross. There is nothing worse than to walk down the street, smile at a pretty lady, acknowledging her beauty, and then, as they are passing you, and smiling back, suddenly doing this elephant-like snorting noise and letting loose with this giant, Ontario-sized lump of what can best be described as a frog that's just been pureed for a minute and a half in a brand new blender.

Also, it might be a good idea if you learned how to recognize crass, and disgusting slogans on tee-shirts. When I walk down the street, the last thing I expect to see on a demure, beautiful young lady, is a tee-shirt that reads, "head down, ass up, that's the way I like to f***". Or one that says, "I'm easy". Or "Big'uns". I would expect that on tee-shirts on homely, of-questionable-taste crack-head  women in Vancouver's downtown east side, but not on pretty 20-something young ladies who literally epitomize the meaning of beauty.

So there. Huang Hung had her say and insulted the majority of foreigners in this wonderful country, making us out to be uncallous ignoramuses who, for the life of us, wouldn't even entertain the thought of eating chicken feet. I have had my say.

As the saying goes ... "tit-for-tat".

Now, go ahead, flame me. I have broad shoulders, and (unlike some people), I can handle criticism.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 03:46:18 PM »

Personally, I don't give a damn about the article. I am not worried what anyone thinks about the way I eat or what I eat. However, the lack of foresight from China Daily editorial team is extremely immature.

I for one, applaud the Central Government's international objective to create the harmonious society.

However, this article has opened up a hornets nest of blog activity, causing 'tit-for-tat' slandering between Chinese and foreign people. The repercussions of this will be felt in Beijing, I hope!

First, the editor owes all foreigners an apology & second, they should sack the journalist effective immediately or ship her to a reformation clinic for inciting racial tensions and disharmony.

On another note, when China gets serious about greenhouse gas and polution controls reduction of 45% by 2020 -- as outlined in Copenhagen -- all fireworks will be banned from public use.

The sulphur and carbon released from this activity is equivalent to hundreds of thousands of tons of pollution into the already polluted atmosphere. The following morning the cleaners clean the street -- how? They clean-up by sweeping all the unexpoded shells and debris into a pile and then set fire to it.

That is a lack of foresight by the China Daily editorial team on pollution controls in the modern era!

Add to that, that it happens all over Asia and you have a massive toxic plume that shrouds the whole sub-continent in uncontrolled pollution.

Get the facts on environmental controls of fireworks and publish that in your newspaper.

The other thing to consider is the statistics of the injuries from fireworks. Down through the ages, the amount and severity of injuries caused by fireworks must be staggering. I wonder how many kids and adults alike have suffered burns, blindness, lacerations, lost fingers, ears, noses etc., from the archaic practice of warding off the evil of a monster called 'Nian.'

Having said that, I will be buying fireworks, having fun and joining in my own festivities just for the sheer fun of it!

When in Rome -- do as the Romans do!

Happy Chinese New Year to all foreigners and our Chinese hosts alike.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 04:35:19 PM »

Id like to know how chinese people have been setting off fireworks "for 5000 years".... fireworks werent invented until the 12th century (wikipedia)...
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 12:34:20 AM »

well......dear, fireworks have not exsisted for 5000 years. still need a long time to be
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 12:35:51 AM »

oh oh, mistake
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 06:39:09 PM »

We Chinese have great tolerance for fireworks; it's one night when you can do some damage and get away with it. For example, you can burn a building down, a brand new building, with stuff in it. How can you comprehend that level of generosity?

And, don't you dare try to do the same, we simply have no tolerance for it. You try to burn a building down, we will kill you, because, you were probably high, and we really don't give a hoot whether you are mentally disturbed or whether your prime minister is going to make endless harassing phone calls.


Look at the inuendo this poor piece of journalism suggests -- it is okay to do public damage and get away with it!

Reflect upon that in the light of the public act of arson or causing an explosion as outlined below.

Table 1 Offenses Liable for Capital Punishment (1997 Criminal Law of PRC)
(sub-section) Crimes Endangering Public Security
  • Arson
    Causing Explosions

Source: Luo, Wei. The 1997 Criminal Code of the People’s Republic of China (Buffalo, NY: William S. Hein & Co., Inc., 1998).

That is another oversight by the journalist Ms Huang to suggest that the generosity of the Law permits the destruction of property by fireworks and no penalty is applicative. Before the said Ms Huang suggests that all foreigners are unlearned persons and stupid (not kowing how to handle a firecracker), she should understand that the transfer of technology is the direct initiative of the central government -- in light of the pursuit of IPR technologies currently in the hands of foreigners.

Does the journalist also misunderstand that fireworks are not just the domain of China (credited with the invention) but also the domain of other territories and foreign entities. Foreign experts can also be adept at pyrotechnics and explosives technologies and are familiarised with the usage of firecrackers as kids.

I am simply highlighting this info because the foolishness of such an article is ludicrous to suggest such foolishness of conduct is permissive in a modernised society like China.

If you look at the piece of so-called 'journalism' that states:

You try to burn a building down, we will kill you, because, you were probably high, and we really don't give a hoot whether you are mentally disturbed or whether your prime minister is going to make endless harassing phone calls.

This journalist has taken the law into her own hands and assumed that she is the jury and the judge before such an occurence -- that is a reproach to the integrity of the Chinese judicial system and the excellent efforts of the PRC Government to establish 'rule of law.'

Aside from that, I haven't seen anyone yet highlight the fact that the executed subject was indeed not British ... he was a Pakistani. Just as the journalist says 'we can never be Chinese', so too a Pakistani can never be a native subject by birthright in Britain. He was a citizen of the UK -- there is a huge difference. Add to that, neither was he operational as a drug smuggler on British territory but was importing from another foreign state. It may have also been possible that he was acting on behalf of a subversive organisation connected with more sinister intent (eg. perhaps Al-Quaida). That is perhaps an unknown quantity.

The wilfull act of drug importation is punishable according to the law of the land -- in this case the PRC. Sovereign laws are just that -- sovereign. The said subject was executed according to that sovereign law -- justly. The said subject wilfully and knowingly involved himself in the crime.

The journalist might step back in her arrogance and just take note of the fact that; many British and indeed foreigners, would agree that the tried and executed subject was in fact justly treated and given a fair trial. Add to that, many foreigners would like to see the reintroduction of the death penalty into their own native jurisdictions.

I don't see where a socialite journalist of her calibre has the integrity, the foresight or the background to comment on international relations in such a derisive and unprofessional manner.

With all due disrespect: 'get a life honey' -- a real life of integrity!

A true socialite journalist is one who understands the boundaries of his/her profession, the etiquette for Chinese and foreign relations and the integrity of the Chinese leadership in adjudicating sovereign laws. I suggest she neither represents the views of the majority of Chinese people, who partake in international relations, nor the views of the PRC leadership who promote the harmonious society.

Happy Chinese New Year!
Prosperity to all Chinese and foreigners alike; who live in justice and integrity to uphold the vision of a harmonious world.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 04:48:56 PM »

i assumed it was suppose to be satirical....

a critique of Chinese society and Chinese govt perhaps??
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 07:13:57 PM »

i think both articles were hilarious!

i took them nboth with a smile..

besides, in Norway women spit while walking in the street, when they smoke, they spit.. they ever chew tobacco or use the swedish "snus" (tobacco consumed by placing it under the lip for extended periods of time - wiki if interested.. it's disgusting!)...
that's probably why i was not that shocked of chinese spitting.. except on the trains!!
My first experience on chinese train:
Nightmare K8485, Hefei - Shanghai (ca. 8 hours)
http://aikidude.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/nightmare-k8485
[my blog might be banned in china.. it is from time to time!]

thanks for sharing!

see you soon :-)
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 07:46:25 PM »

Hefei - Nanjing = 1 hour
Hefei - Shanghai = >3 but <4 hours now by

F A A A S  S  S  S  T Tra a a a i i i i i i i i i i n n n n n n n n n
Very comfortable... Better than flying...
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