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henry
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a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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June 08, 2008, 10:30:17 PM »
yesterday, i was surfing thru some sites, when i came across this post in china teaching Job portal about an Australian volunteer teaching job for AFRICANS and PHILIPINOS with any kind of visas
http://www.cathayteacher.com/index.php?post_id=11141&action=search&2=australia+volunteer
check it.....dunno if its one those rip offs for africans or wht?
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kaibo 开 博
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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June 09, 2008, 11:31:42 AM »
The article is confusing to say the least but it is for positions in China not in Australia.
There are positives if the individual person is happy to work for peanuts but at the same time justify his/her international contribution to society. It may also help someone in need if they have visa problems as some of these orgs may assist the individual to remain in the PRC if they have visa problems. As most of us still like some degree of remuneration, it is not suitable for us. Perhaps it is more akin to the international person who really is on a mission of community service and personal freedom, independence and money do not matter in the least.
It is not a rip-off, because it is clearly designated as 'volunteering' but it would be advisable to really check out the financial position of the company to make sure it is credible and a worthy NGO of international repute. The missionary minded person could do well to become involved if they are sponsored financially from abroad by a missions backed org.
The Chinese government tends to welcome NGO's provided they do not become involved in subvertive activities or undermine the sociological-political-cultural structures and values. It would be advisable also to make sure that the above said values are upheld by this org or any other org as well, before becoming involved.
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Mac
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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June 11, 2008, 06:39:18 PM »
Rip-off for sure. No further comment, just be wise enough to know how shit flies around
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junoir
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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July 10, 2008, 11:54:04 AM »
Quote from: henry on June 08, 2008, 10:30:17 PM
yesterday, i was surfing thru some sites, when i came across this post in china teaching Job portal about an Australian volunteer teaching job for AFRICANS and PHILIPINOS with any kind of visas
http://www.cathayteacher.com/index.php?post_id=11141&action=search&2=australia+volunteer
check it.....dunno if its one those rip offs for africans or wht?
Despite peoples perspectives and opinions baout Africans and Phillipinos, i hold them in high respect, this is basically becuase of the few interactions i have had with some of them, while we all know that countries all over the world is saddled with problems Africans are not exempted, while we know that discrimination is written all over the world, these Africans and Phillipinos are not exempted,
nevertheless i see a drive an spirit in these ones pushing them to the extremes to succeed at whatever cost.....
On ocassions i have met with some of them and chat with them, i find some of them to be very scholarly and well educated..
This article stated above makes references to only Africans and Phillipinos...why??
Its obvious that it is a machinery set aside to exploit and use in an inhumane way and manner these group of people, my advise is that no matter what you guys do, whatever your stance and position, hardwork and perserverance would lead you to your desired heights
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Volunteer Teaching Jobs should be open to all tribes and ethinic nationalities and not restricted and clamoured for a few, while there are some that have restrictions and quotas for choosing, it is all a matter of choice....
Your services are needed and you must be convinced that if you are willing to offer your services do not offer them to rip-offss..
Your services are needed and you must be convinced that if you are willing to offer your services do not offer them to rip-offss..
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I don't live in either my past or my future. I'm interested only in the present. If you can concentrate always on the present, you'll be a happy man. Life will be a party for you, a grand festival, because life is the moment we're living now
henry
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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July 23, 2008, 03:03:35 AM »
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Volunteer Teaching Jobs should be open to all tribes and ethinic nationalities and not restricted and clamoured for a few, while there are some that have restrictions and quotas for choosing, it is all a matter of choice....
thats the thingie rit there. why should be for only Africans and Filipinos?
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Hills
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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July 24, 2008, 10:40:17 AM »
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Hey yo,
To the best of my knowledge, every job is categorize with respect to it's relevant requisites, these requirements might differ with race, education, experience, age ,sex and even appearance. So I choose to differ with you on the issue that volunteer jobs are and should be open to all:
It all depends on how worthy you are to the job; So the key is that never look desperate for a job, be you African, Filipinos, white or other: We all know that desperateness lead to desperate actions and desperate action is one path to self destruction .I for one wouldn’t take on any volunteer job be it at the WHITE HOUSE
Let's not give up the pride and dignity of our African origin.................make the fuckers charm for you
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Tim S. Mercurio
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 07, 2008, 11:54:23 PM »
volunteer??!! who would do such an activity! lol
time is money money is life with out money there is no life and with life there is no will!!!
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majiren
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 08, 2008, 11:07:29 AM »
Again, tsm wtf are you talking about - I hope for the sake of the human race you do not procreate...
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Tim S. Mercurio
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 08, 2008, 11:44:25 AM »
wow is it really that hard to understand? even my chinese students understand this.
its real simple with out money you can't have an easy life and with this easy life as most would come to enjoy a special harmonious and upstanding quality experience as i to I, i would not not wish to reach out with out getting some sort of reward because as every would understand and possibly deserve is some sorty of reward for each and every hard working contribution.
time is money ,money is life ,as time you grow older one would realize its possesions and equality where anyone can stand out and become what they wish to be.
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welcome to alltrusts
www.alltrusts.com
HI,I am Tim. If you are a newbie or long term expat I can help and offer work,teaching position,B2B,Partnership,apartment,Market rate.call or send to my number 13675609007,15256991224
Thank for calling
junoir
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 12, 2008, 01:12:02 AM »
Money is not everything to me, and i believe at one time or the other we should offer our services to those people that really need them.
I personally have offered some lectures and classes all for free,just because i felt it was the right thing to do at the country side where i could see that they could not afford me at any cost.
So if you want to volunteeer just do so but be sure that you are doing the right thing
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Mac
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 12, 2008, 09:49:32 AM »
Hey Junior.........
Got some for you, if u don't mind
-Honestly, was your volunteer undertaking totally selfless or was it complemented by hidden egoistic motives?
-How was your pocket at the time, broke or handsome?
-What other options did you have................better ones?
Volunteering is an abstract and ambiguous concept
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rgeczi
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 12, 2008, 07:22:27 PM »
For me, my volunteering in Canada started when I was 11. I just saw something on TV, for the local food bank, and decided to help out. My mother drove me there, did the work, then left. Not all people have alterior motives. Some just want to help out.
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junoir
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Re: a RIP-OFF or FOR REAL ????//???
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August 16, 2008, 01:52:39 AM »
Quote from: Mac on August 12, 2008, 09:49:32 AM
Hey Junior.........
Got some for you, if u don't mind
-Honestly, was your volunteer undertaking totally selfless or was it complemented by hidden egoistic motives?
-How was your pocket at the time, broke or handsome?
-What other options did you have................better ones?
Volunteering is an abstract and ambiguous concept
Well i guess we have different people, i have no money issues well if you dont know and i have enough jobs on my hands to make a living,
so the issue of my pocket is out of the issue....
i have enough options and even most time have turned them down, work when i desire and sometimes find time to enjoy my money,
i totally disagree with you that volunteering is an
ambigous concept
, it is limited and well defined, it all depends on the actor involved and the issue arising,
however i would not think you are qualified for my valuable services,you dont need it, moreso i strongly percieve you fall into the categories of people willing to capitalise of the goodwill of others, i know your type....
If you think money is everything then you are so wrong.....
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I don't live in either my past or my future. I'm interested only in the present. If you can concentrate always on the present, you'll be a happy man. Life will be a party for you, a grand festival, because life is the moment we're living now
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